Oh I see.. I have not played a game yet with the new DE codex. I did not realize they had gotten to be that good of a army. If you dont mind me asking what is a typical tournament list people are showing up with?? Also I did notice the great core stuff but I did not think doom warlocks, sisters, harpoon chariot, new monster, and the new cauldron was that good for the points.. am I wrong to think this????