NightLordsOldtimer wrote:I would like to add that I just had an "A-ha!" moment. I now see what you have been trying to explain, but I had to walk thru the steps in my head before I had the epiphany. For those still following this discussion, let me illuminate:
~~~ Two players are about to play a game of 40K. After the preliminaries, they have rolled off to determine who will deploy first. Player A will deploy first, and Player B will deploy second. Both players each have one unit with the Infiltrate USR.
++ Begin Deployment Phase ++
+++++ Begin Primary Deployment Sub-Phase +++++
==> Player A deploys all of his units except those that either he will keep in Reserve, or that have at least 1 model in them that has the Infiltrate USR.
==> Player B now deploys all of his units except those that either he will keep in Reserve, or that have at least 1 model in them that has the Infiltrate USR.
+++++ End Primary Deployment Sub-Phase +++++
+++++ Begin Infiltrate Sub-Phase +++++
==> The players roll off to determine who will place their Infiltrating unit first.
=======>> Player B wins the roll-off and chooses to deploy his Infiltrating unit first, and then does so.
=======>> Player A then deploys his Infiltrating unit.
+++++ End Infiltrate Sub-Phase +++++
++ End Deployment Phase ++
~~~ Cypher has the Infiltrate USR, but since the unit of CSMs that he will operate with (join) do not, either both Cypher and the unit of CSMs must be deployed in his player's Primary Deployment Sub-Phase of the Deployment Phase (before the Infiltrate Sub-Phase begins), OR Cypher and the unit of CSMs he is joining must be placed in Reserves after the Primary Deployment Sub-Phase ends and then arrive either via Outflank or from that players long board edge when they arrive from Reserves.
~~~~~~ In either case, Cypher and the unit of CSMs that he intends to join cannot be deployed together during the Infiltrate Sub-Phase because the CSMs do not have the Infiltrate USR and could therefore NOT be deployed during the Infiltrate Sub-Phase.
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